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| Outraged | Well, now that the kiddies are out of school everyone is freaking out at my house wanting to go after Will and his band members and a couple friends with baseball bats. It is pretty serious stuff. I think they can be calmed down for the most part but I too am outraged by this newest atrocity! For those of you who do not know a young kid came on here and stated that he did not like Second Last's Blink 182 covers. His exact words were "that blink 182 cover sucked". This young kid who although has had his name already mentioned would like to keep it quiet as he does NOT want police involvement in the matter. He was walking with his back turned ALONE when Will and the rest of Second Last and a few friends decided that his review was 'unacceptable' and he has the beaten face and body to prove it. Will is bragging about this and is using it as a warning that if you are by yourself and half their size/age DO NOT say anything about their band and call him a god or else you get jumped. This is absolutely disgusting that this little kid had to get beat up to sazve a bad bands ego's. The kid does not want the police involved and there are over 30 high school kids at my house right this moment flipping out. WILL: Because the kid is afraid he will get beat up everyday and because I (for the moment) will respect this kids wishes you might(and I stress the might) not get hospitalized over this matter. Please apologize to him for your uncalled for behavior and NEVER take such action again! Not everyone will like your music, especially since you play a genre that even 10 year olds make fun of. Everyone else: there are many upset people over this and I hope that other bands will not take this kind of action. LiveVictoria should be used as a resource and not a weapon! - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:05pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | wow, is this actually real? - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:10pm | ||
| Will of Second Last | Im a gay christian bully. - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:10pm | ||
| Anon386 | Well you let out enough details now so you might as well talk to the authorities. I don't see how living in fear of being pounded on some more for doing this is any better. It would be good justice to anyone who thinks covering Blink182 is a good idea in the first place! - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:11pm | ||
| Outraged | Umm yes it is real i will go grab the posts where second last actually BRAG about it. I personally am trying to get the kid to go to the cops but he is young and they did a number on him with threats and everything. I am waiting for his parents to get home and because of his age I think they can press charges for him. He is very frightened by it. - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:16pm | ||
| Outraged | This one is from shameless under punk show: SeCoNd LaSt - we already made an example of one of your lil buddy's let's just say Jason, one punch down on the ground, ya, now whos' the pussy's ha, and if u could touch me...i'd pay money - Mon, 19 May 1:09pm - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:18pm | ||
| Anonymous | This one is under seeking shows on the punk show thread, this one really offends us because he did admit to being bisexual under MUCH critisism since high school kids are cruel. SeCoNd LaSt - u sound like the homo, and we made an example out of one of your gay ass friendsm let's just say JASON dropped his sorry ass one punch....ha that was fuunnnny! - Mon, 19 May 1:07pm He said that they were calling him a fag over and over while they kicked him. His mom gets home at 7 and I think this classifies as more than an assault, it is a hate crime. - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:19pm | ||
| dan conner User Info... | OK, sorry, but that is pathetic. Hahaha... I'd love to get my band together to beat him! There's me... 6'1", 220lbs, with an anger problem, our drummer, who is 6'3", 245lbs, but won't hurt anything... ok maybe not him... And then out bassist, a 5'3", 90lb kid... Who has never played a sport in his life... ok, maybe not my band, or anyone, but that is really not funny, or anything. Police should be involved. - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:22pm | ||
| police officer | It must be stated, that if any of this is true, police should be called. If it isnt, the police should be called and the person who started such a thing be held accountable. Either way, a serious crime is in offense here, joke or not. - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:25pm | ||
| mike User Info... | This is not cool. Just one question. How does this band know who this kid is?? I say everyone sucks on here, use my own name, yet others like Jay or Ross or anyone wouldnt know me from a hole in the ground. Hopefully this is what it sounds like, a serious and stupid joke. ALthough I do believe i remember that post, sad enough. - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:30pm | ||
| Outraged | These posts by second last were made today and all you have to do is go and look to see them for yourself. Jason has now agreed to call the police so it will be handled by the authorites. he will not need stitches or anything as it is mostly bruises but I still can not get over the fact that a bad review here on live vic resulted in a 14 year old getting beaten by a band of 16 -17 year olds. - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:46pm | ||
| Outraged | Mike: they go to school with him and since he admitted publicly to being bisexual he is well known through out the school. - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:48pm | ||
| dan conner User Info... | Jesus.. I have some bi and gay friends... Last person who bugged them for it, found themselves trying to pick themselves up after their head denting a locker... Whatever. - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:57pm | ||
| Anonymous | So why is there so much talking? why not just fuck them up... this is unacceptable. WHat school they go to? someone tell me or i will find out another way - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:59pm | ||
| crow | UNREAL!!I have kids as well and as a parent and musician i am shocked.Police action??They're Minors a slap on the wrist at best. Although the authorities is the way to go,if it were my kid or even one of his/her friends i'd go ballistic!! - Mon, 19 May 2003 8:31pm | ||
| Anonymous | there are some big guys who post on live vic. Lets see that smart ass try to take down any of them - Mon, 19 May 2003 8:55pm | ||
| Hate Tank | Fuck the cops!! Those fuckers should get stomped in the streets punk rawk style!! The lads will be at their next show to fucking pound on those little cunts. That's a promise!!!!!!!!!! - Mon, 19 May 2003 8:55pm | ||
| Anonymous | paybacks a bitch boys!!!!IT'S COMING!!! - Mon, 19 May 2003 9:00pm | ||
| Anonymous | When do these shits play again??? Me and the boys wanna make a date of it and tear this kid a new asshole. You've really fucked up this time Will. It's onlly a matter of time, bitch. - Mon, 19 May 2003 9:01pm | ||
| Anonymous | These kids go to stelly's. - Mon, 19 May 2003 9:16pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Charge them, then when the cops are done deal with it the right way, and beat some serious sense into them. Wow they just managed to make more enemies in one day than most people make in their whole lives. As for the gay comments, I worked in a gay bar for ten years, how about you guys try that shit on me? - Mon, 19 May 2003 9:18pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | make sure this shit's all true first gentlemen..... - Mon, 19 May 2003 9:18pm | ||
| Outraged | Hey I don't know if I should keep posting. the cops are at my house right now and the kids mom is here too. The police are being very respectable and I can't say a single bad thing about them. I suggest that this be handled by the police since none of you were invloved in the incident so let them try first. If this EVER happens again then it will be open season make no doubt. Jason just read your posts and he wants to say thank you for the support and that it helps him feel sure that what happened to him was wrong. - Mon, 19 May 2003 9:28pm | ||
| Justin L | yes that is quite dis-tastful that jason was beaten for his sexual preference and his opinion... I wouldn't like it if a gang of homosexual men came and beat me up for being hetero... so why should it go the other way? Keep your head up jason! show those second last kids they can't keep ya down! and remember we are all in your corner, kid! after reading this thread i went through the entire msg board reading some of second last's posts... quite amuzing about how insecure they are, but not everyone is perfect... revenge is for fools. Those who forgive and forget only get stronger...everyone gets their come-uppin's - Mon, 19 May 2003 9:59pm | ||
| Outraged | The police just left and everything went very well, Jason went to the hospital just to get checked out in case but he appeared ok and in good spirits. His mother was the real hero as she supported him and everyone here and respected everyones wishes and looked out for her son with lots of car. There was witnessess at the school and so the police are looking into making a few charges and they really kept stressing not to take action into our own hands as people showed up here who did not even know Jason or second last but were just angered at the situation. The police had a look at Will's comments here on live victoria but said they had enough evidence so they wouldn't need an afadacit's from poster's or the operators. A bad day ended up showing a large community support against violence and it brought a group of people together to even think of maybe putting on a show in support of stopping violence against homosexuals. I think it would be a good idea. Cheers, no longer outraged. - Mon, 19 May 2003 10:34pm | ||
| Elizabeth User Info... | I second the motion of putting on a show of stopping violence against homosexuals. I am very disapointed in Will and his friends. Just to clarify, when did Jason get jumped because some other people got jumped by Will on Friday. - Mon, 19 May 2003 10:43pm | ||
| JESSE LEWIS | HEY MAN THE GOT ME TO ON FRIDAY WILL ROSS AND 2 OTHERS GOT ME AND MY BUD IN BRENTWOOD AND ABOUT 8:15 IT WAS STILL LIGHT OUT...GOD! THIS GOTA STOP! FUCK! - Mon, 19 May 2003 10:50pm | ||
| Ty Stranglehold User Info... | Ahhh, the results of dumb jock assholes thinking that they're punk cuz they play shitty and cover blink. I've been reading those posts for the last little while and wondering if those illiterate dorks are for real. I guess so. I'm glad that many people have showed up to say they won't stand for that kind of crap in our scene. Here's a review: Any band that plays Blink 182 covers is full of shit and should throw themselves off the nearest grain silo or something. Seriously. If you don't like the review, send me an email and we'll get together and discuss it. - Mon, 19 May 2003 10:54pm | ||
| JESSE LEWIS | OOOPS MIND THE SPELLING IM JUST PISST OFF - Mon, 19 May 2003 10:55pm | ||
| Outraged | You mean this happened to you too? Ok holy fuck this is the second jumping in 4 days? I respect police officers who respect me and the ones tonite did. But this is too much, they go around and beat people up because they are gay and don't like their music? Jesse if it is at all possible could I e-mail you to talk about a possible "solution" as these fucks have gone too far if this is a recurring thing? Over the course of the day at least 50 people have come and gone from my house in an attempt to kick these guys asses so let me know. I also feel kind of out of place here as I surf this site because my older brother plays in a band that I see often and talk to on this message board. My younger brother is in grade 12 at stelly's and when he saw Jason running down the road crying he picked him up and brought him here so that we could clean him up and make sure he was ok. I have to say that even though Jason is 14 he is very mature for his age and a very nice kid with good friends and I couldn't see how any normal person could do this! I have never heard of second last or their music but what kind of people do this? It makes me sick. How are you Jesse? I hope you didn't get too hurt. Did you inform the police? We must make this stop, hopefully without anymore people getting hurt. - Mon, 19 May 2003 10:56pm | ||
| Simon Frankson | I recommend a panel is put together. One that will henceforth be the judge the bands in brentwood. It's a simple idea, one that enforces the outlawing of bands who display totally inappropriate behavior. Or perhaps someone could just confront Second Last. Does anyone know if they KNOW we're yammering about them? - Mon, 19 May 2003 11:31pm | ||
| JJ | I think some of the guys in the vic scene should go a have a few "words" with these little fuckin shits. I must say they have definately made a name for themselves and I dont think they'll be playing to many shows in town. (at least i hope not) - Mon, 19 May 2003 11:40pm | ||
| Brett | some club owner in the area should book them just so we can beat the fucking shit out of them, I sure there would be a decent draw - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:00am | ||
| Anonymous | beating up a kid cuz he doesnt like your music you are sooooooooooo cool - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:03am | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Let's go to there next show and show them some down home Victoria lovin. - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:13am | ||
| Anonymous | They certainly not playing in Brentwood, their home fucking town, anymore, someone with high connections has made sure of that.... Fuck, it will be sure interesting to see what happends at school tommorow, better bring a camera. - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:20am | ||
| Potatoe Cock User Info... | I knew these second last guys were trouble. I said their band sucked under this name and they threatened me. I know them personally so I hope they don't recognize me. They deserve a good ole fashion beating. - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:21am | ||
| Anonymous | Something interesting I found that proves second last is in way over their heads http://www.secondlast.cjb.net - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:39am | ||
| Holmes Messages Posted: | Don't click on the above link if you don't want spyware installed on your computer. That said, I'm going to keep Will's name on hand for, say, the next ten years or so... it will not be surprising to me how often it is associated with his incarceration for, say, wife beating, assault, robbery, maybe manslaughter... who knows what depths he can plumb. Maybe you all too, from the look of how the reactions are going... hell, not too far from my house I can take a brisk walk over to where Reena Virk's blood is mingled with the asphalt. It all seems pretty senseless. Wise up. H - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:20am | ||
| Random Thought | I figure that these kids are "ghetto / punk" harcore wannabes...I reckon that they need to be taught aboot shit like tha fact that u cant just go around and knock people out without getting knocked the fuck out back. And since this kid is as pinner as a hungry ethiopian, he will get hurt easily (Assuming he doest have his perents to back him up like he did some days ag0)... What is Second lasts latest website? Isnt it also funny that his dad is a cop? But lets not forget that it isnt just thart kid. Jason Stewart, Ross (Some fat dude) also played a part in this thing. Im pissed off because my friend got jump i wont say his name but hes a friend (It wasnt jason or whoever that persopn was that got jumped) and im prepared to back my friend up, and i speak for quite a few ppl here too. - Tue, 20 May 2003 10:36am | ||
| Anonymous | second last is full of themselves, they think they can play well and that their all that, well news to them...you suck add, you cant play worth shit. your fucking cowards going around beating defencless computer nerds, your going to get beat on now, you went too far - Tue, 20 May 2003 11:34am | ||
| inquiring minds want to know | You say some fat Ross guy had a part. Ross Bay??? Is this the gentleman you speak of??? I thought Ross Bay was an older gentleman, not a high school kid. Who is this Ross and Jason guys that took part???? - Tue, 20 May 2003 11:54am | ||
| Anonymous | Ross Bay is a different Ross that we're speaking of. And it's a different Jason who helped Will beat up some kids. - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:00pm | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | Im headin over to Ross B ays place right now to smash in his face while he's sleep. If he's awake I have to reevaluate my plan..... - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:02pm | ||
| linch mob | home town lovin indeed! - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:05pm | ||
| Anonymous | Where the fuck are Second Last's parents while all this shit is going on? Sounds like they're completely out of touch with their children. One of them is a Cop? Kind of useless as a cop. - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:13pm | ||
| S.V. | Christ! This is insane...reminiscent of the witch trials. Gossip rears it's ugly head and spreads like wildfire. I guess anyone can post accusations on Livevic and expect a gang of vigilante strangers to remedy the situation? C'mon boys...give your head a shake! I agree this teenage bully sounds like he needs an attitude adjustment, but I don't think having a bunch of adult thugs jumping him at a gig is appropriate. This should be handled by the people involved. Reminds me of the "skinhead elimination plan"...discretion goes a long way, even if nothing comes to fruition. - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:39pm | ||
| Dave | I'm the one Will jumped on Friday. Hes a coward, plain and simple. Heres how it went down. First he had his friend come and threaten me, won't even tell me himself that he wants to fight me. Then he told my friend that he hadn't made those threats. Then he jumped me 4 vs 1, and he was the one at the back of the group. He had Jason actually attack me. So I've got a message for Will: You talk alot of trash from a far, but won't even fallow through with your threats yourself. How bout this, if your testicles finally drop, come talk to me and we'll do this 1 on 1. You know a fair fight? Otherwise it looks like alot of people are fixing to stomp you. Free speach Will I have the right to say your band is a bunch of no talent losers and not get jumped. But if you don't like what I'm saying why don't you come deal with it yourself?! - Tue, 20 May 2003 12:53pm | ||
| Anonymous | I like Dave. He summed it up pretty good. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:13pm | ||
| - | Free peaches? - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:16pm | ||
| Ent-Ausserung | The staff of Ent-Ausserung consider Second To Last to be the only decent punk band left in this town. We're behind you 100%, boys! - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:17pm | ||
| Dave | Not ordinary peaches either. Free S-peaches. The new super peaches. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:20pm | ||
| Justin L | Wow, so second last has made quite the name for themselves... Let me make one thing quite clear, i am not slagging their music in anyway... i am talking about them as people. I know alot of people in and around victoria, some good folks and some bad... these kids are about the appitimy of low. as i said before "low-class" individuals... i don't wanna kick thier asses, in fact i pity them because they are so ignorant and nieve to the rest of the world i hope one day they will realize what they've done... with that said i end my posts on this thread... until next time! - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:25pm | ||
| Tim(Delicious Face) User Info... | I blame the Rap music. You can't spell Crap without Rap is what I like to say. Stupid faggets want to be like LA gangs cause they are so obsessed with the crap they call music and trying to talk walk and act like a black thug. Lets bring this to an end. Like this is just gay. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:29pm | ||
| ?�?�? | will barz is a twat. his friends are his tools. tools!! he thinks he is a gang lord. that fucktard. i think he should take it up the ass from a rampaging elephant. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:32pm | ||
| Dave | I blame inbreeding. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:34pm | ||
| question mark guy | sorry - i mean to refine my insult. will barz is a RAMPAGING twat. there. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:37pm | ||
| HMMMMM? | I do believe Second Last have just done themselves in around this town. Sad, sad people who have no concept of what life is all about. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:38pm | ||
| Will Barz | eye half ann annoncemunt two make: http://www.nationofcool.com/forums/uploads//post-9-1053215545.gif - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:39pm | ||
| Justin L | whoa buddy... that's the easy way out, blame it on rap music. Sorry but that's not gonna cut it. Hip-hop is a culture of its own. For someone to blame hip hop culture on a beating is just as naieve as participating in the beating. I am not trying to offend anyone, but i am simply stating the obveous... and besides, they like blink and green day :P - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:40pm | ||
| Tim(Delicious Face) User Info... | Let chaos entwine on defenceless soil, remove errors of man and sweep all the weakening kind. Bygone are tolerance and presence of grace. Scavengers are sent out to cleanse the human filth parade.I am pure, i am true I am ALL over you, i am laugh, i am smile I am the earth defiled. I am the cosmic storms, I am the tiny worms, I am fear in the night, I AM BRINGER OF THE LIGHT! The moral is: Rap sucks. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:50pm | ||
| ?�?�? | seriously. the only other people who I can see beating up people who don't like their music is Nickelback. do YOU want to be compared to NICKELBACK??? will barz thinks chad kroeger is jesus. he has a shrine in his house devoted to the fact that chad kroeger is in fact the reincarnation of gods holy son. also, this whole issue is quite retarded, but it's a unique issue that all you have to do is kill will. then it will all be over. his followers will disperse into the hills in choruses of wails and shrieks holding their heads in their hands once he has been terminated. you have twenty one days. that is all. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:53pm | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | Well i didnt kick in Ross B ays face but I just ate all his cereal and drank all his stash of cooking wine. That'll teach him. Hope I have the right dude..... - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:55pm | ||
| ?�?�? | twenty days and 23 hours. get to it gentlemen. this message will self destruct in twenty seconds. nineteen. run fools. - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:58pm | ||
| Mr Bean | Does anyone know if Second Last have a website? Or can someone post a picture of this Will guy? - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:02pm | ||
| Dave | Well secondlast _DID_ have a website, but it was hacked, defaced and then passed between more people then a twelve cent hooker. - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:03pm | ||
| ! | If someone is going to fight they should just do it. No more mind games and childish name calling. Will, step up and stop hiding behind your friends. Oh ya It is absolutely distrubing how you had your friends jump a kid who had some criticism against your band. Lastley you throw around the words "homo" and "fag" without realizing that the kid you jumped is bisexual. It was not just jumping a person it was a hate crime. You are nothing but an ignorant little boy who has no moral decency. - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:07pm | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | mmmmmmm 12 cent hooker..... - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:13pm | ||
| anonymr. | in response to a previous post: to be completely technical, if this Will guy "[threw] around the words 'homo' and 'fag' without realizing that the kid [he] jumped is bisexual" as a previous poster posted, than this is NOT a hate crime as the impetus wasn't his knowldege of the kids sexuality. - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:21pm | ||
| ! | Even if he wasn't aware that the kid was bisexual he could still be held accountable for a hate crime as he was calling him a "homo" and "fag". If he didn't wan't to be accused of hate crimes he should have possibly used some different words, however, I find it hard to see Will changing. - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:40pm | ||
| ~Chiggz~ | i think its wrong wot that kid and his "homies" are uo to, at the end of the day, my friend got jumped and out numbered, and as a mate to him, i think it is fair to justify this by an ass whoopin, yes the can should be opened, put yur self in daves position or a friend of daves position, would u like your friend to get jumped by a bunch of posers and let them get away with it? Forget the moral "your acting like a child" crap, im not a violent person. but i back up my friend 100% and I know there are plenty others out there...Im not a personal fan of their music, i find it repetitive and poor but hey, freedom of speech rite? but i guess i respect them for having a band. I DO NOT RESPECT them for turning that band into some sort of stupid gang. cut the bullshit will and stand up to what you are gonna recieve. which is an ass whopin, Your name is crap and your actions have resulted in the name of your band being crap. You onluy have yourself to thank for that, I do not forsee many gigs in the future for second last. - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:41pm | ||
| back when punk was punk | Way to go Second last boyz; you have single handedly made "punk" into another word for "mindless hooligan". It would figure that these idiots think that Blink 182 are "rad" and "punk". I'd love to see these little wiggers dropped off in some very black area of, say, Detroit or Philly and then see just how "punk" they are. This incident has ensured that anyone stupid enough to book this band for a show will end up with no end of trouble, if only for the retaliation factor. And our pal Will (whoever he is) might want to take it easy for awhile unless he wants to walk with a cane for the rest of his life (not very punk, eh?). Actually it sounds like he would do best if he followed in his father's footsteps and became a cop himself. He certainly sounds like he has the temperment. - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:55pm | ||
| S.V. | Indeed, something needs to be done. Get you friends/family organized and remedy the situation yourselves. But instead of advertising your best laid plans on a message board, why not act with discretion. You gain the element of suprise and anonymity. Much more difficult to prosecute too. ;) - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:55pm | ||
| Anonymous | Wow, this post is more captivating than Degrassi Jr High. I've never seen/heard of Second Last (probably because they're too crappy to be known outside of the high school ring) but way to screw your band's chances of ever playing here again. I've read Will's cocky remarks here before: I'm all for street justice. - Tue, 20 May 2003 3:17pm | ||
| ?�?�? | where are some of these comments that will posted? can someone post a link plze? or a quotation? and he's pinner and has spiky blonde hair - Tue, 20 May 2003 3:29pm | ||
| Anonymous | Name calling or not, one punch or more, IT HAPPENED AND IT WAS PHYSICAL VIOLENCE! Not acceptable in any way shape or form. - Tue, 20 May 2003 3:30pm | ||
| anonymr. | all the talk about physical retaliation is blind emotion. come on people, think for a second about what you're saying. if you go out and beat him now sure you'll feel great for being the heroes of victoria and maybe you might scare a few people into not being like this Will person but you'll also very likely create a more violent person or people looking for even further, possibly more dramatic retaliation and the whole pathetically ignorant cycle will continue. grow some balls and actually think about the best reaction to Will's action. a similar scenario happened here years ago to someone i know. some of his friends laid the beats on a few guys for whatever stupid reason. when these guys and their friends came back for revenge they found my friend who, just being an acquaintance of the guilty ones, received bats and chains to his head causing irreversible damage. you're cock will not get bigger the more punches you lay down so just be a human and think responsibly. - Tue, 20 May 2003 3:31pm | ||
| ????? can't do the upside down ones because i had that in my clipboard | http://www.ducttapeman.net/Forum/images/logo.gif here's your pic of will. let the shotgun gathering commence. - Tue, 20 May 2003 3:32pm | ||
| Anonymous | For ?????- look at the shameless self promotion section and you can read Will bragging about this. - Tue, 20 May 2003 3:33pm | ||
| Anonymous | Here's a quote for you- "SeCoNd LaSt - we already made an example of one of your lil buddy's let's just say Jason, one punch down on the ground, ya, now whos' the pussy's ha, and if u could touch me...i'd pay money - Mon, 19 May 1:09pm" - Tue, 20 May 2003 3:38pm | ||
| ?�?�? | lol... i'm feeling stupid that i didn't think of looking there first. - Tue, 20 May 2003 3:56pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Alas, time to take a page out of the Micky Christ playbook! I'm up, I'm down, I'm in, I'm out, I'm black, and blue, from the person of you. Emotionally scarred, from your big fist, Too late for sorry, no need to ask why. Here I am now, you wanna beat me up. - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:01pm | ||
| OMG! | [email protected] - Will Barz e-mail address. [email protected] - Ross McDonalds e-mail address. Want a house addy and I'll hook you up. - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:02pm | ||
| Anonymous | Barz ain't a common last name, must be in the phone book. - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:15pm | ||
| S.V. | Perhaps this is getting out of hand. Bring on the group hugs!! ;) - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:22pm | ||
| Remember | Remember the boy who got beaten to death in Sydney becasue he was a 'loser' ie: outcast. What kind of society are we raising our children in that they feel justified in beating or killing somebody they dislike, or dont see as 'cool'. Juvenile detention needs to be stricter, and more teens should be charged as adults. If you are old enough to beat someone down, perhaps to death, then you are old enough to stand trial as an adult. But our prissy sissy government sees it differently. And a hefty percentage of teen violence is brought to us courtesy of the middle to upper class youth. Not all, but enough. So the government would have to deal with angry rich folk which we all know the government is. gangbangers beat young couple in in Stadacona Park. gangbangers attack man outside of 7-11 because he was angred that they spat on his car. gangbangers beat a man almost to death on Quadra St. for his cigarettes. Man beaten half to death downtowen because he laughed at a punkass who offered him cocaine. Beaten half to death by 13 kids that is. I know a British guy, was trying to get his citizenship, hard working fella, was attacked by a gang of kids outside of Macs on Cook because of his accent, they made fun, he said FUCK OFF, they attacked, he defended with a crowbar , didnt hit anyone though, cops came ARRESTED HIM. He got deported. I was once mugged by a gang of punks. Bastards. - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:23pm | ||
| Anonymous | Where is Will anyways? He's usually oh-so eager to respond/be noticed whenever the possibility arises. - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:25pm | ||
| mark mor User Info... | if its any consolation to you Victorians, gang violence seems to becoming more and more widespread, not just in your fair city. The last gig we played in Calgary ended up in a skinhead vs. punkers brawl that ended w/ 8 cruisers, a police chopper and luckily no real injuries. Unfortunately, the following weekend a bitch match on our punk message board out here ended w/ one kid being runover and killed 2 days ago. If there is a trend here, it seems to be from someone dissing someone else over music, or scene and it is progressively getting worse and worse. Kinda scary actually. Kids play for keeps these days. - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:28pm | ||
| Anonymous | The little tyke is at school, trying to learn how to spell. - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:29pm | ||
| ?�?�? | Just reiterating something I said in the Shameless Self Promotion/Punk Show Thread: wow will, that's REALLY smart of you. I don't have a problem with the music your band plays - in fact i doubt the fact that the rest of your band is as stuck up as you are - but i DO have a problem with you getting your goons (sorry, friends) to kick some poor kids ass because he doesn't like your music. Hacking someones site is no grounds to jump someone over. You are a coward, and one day you are going to be taught a very harsh lesson, either from the people on this board, or life itself. You contentious twat. I hope you drown in a pool of your own putrid yuke when you become 'famous'. Or when your band does. You're all talk, bub, and I don't doubt that even I could kick your ass one on one. Didn't you ever hear of friendly talking it out? My god. You are fucking sad, kid. You say we don't have lives when you stay up until 10:40 PM hacking down people who don't like you. Stay the fuck away from me. Good luck to your band, but I do hope you become a coke addict and start twitching until you spasm so hard you snap your own spine and concurrently drown in a pool of your own putrid yuke. enough said - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:39pm | ||
| OiBoy | In the words of Cocksparrer. Droogs don't run. Droogs don't run. Whenever you're in trouble, you know we'll be right there Droogs don't run. We don't take no shit from no one, this town belongs to us. Moral...Will will get what's coming to him, little fuck. - Tue, 20 May 2003 5:08pm | ||
| ?�?�? | href='http://members.msn.com/[email protected]' http://members.msn.com/[email protected]<' target='_blank'>target='_blank'>http://members.msn.com/[email protected]</a> update on the picture, he's the guy in the middle. prepare for utter ass kicking. - Tue, 20 May 2003 5:21pm | ||
| Anonymous | "Tim(Delicious Face) - I blame the Rap music. You can't spell Crap without Rap is what I like to say. Stupid faggets want to be like LA gangs cause they are so obsessed with the crap they call music and trying to talk walk and act like a black thug. Lets bring this to an end. Like this is just gay. - Tue, 20 May 11:29am" this happens all too often in Vic. to take a page from the Old Days thread, I recall the show where the little wiggers showed up at Club A Go Go during the Pressure Cooker/SickSense show and laid weasel-beatings/lynchings on the kids coming out of a great show. then the little wiggers sped away in their parents' cars, leaving the cops to arrest everyone w/ a skateboard, despite the witnesses. it pretty much put a hex on consistent and good turnouts at that place. - Tue, 20 May 2003 5:24pm | ||
| Anonymous | coming on this site to post threats isnt exactly the way to go guys unfortunately these days people dont just fight with their fists im not saying just let it go but come on you guys you beat me up so my big brothers gonna beat you up then your big brother's gonna beat him up then my dads gonna beat him up and on and on how bout just avoiding each other and not ending up having someone brain damaged or dead - Tue, 20 May 2003 5:32pm | ||
| Anonymous | whos OMG? href='http://members.msn.com/[email protected]' http://members.msn.com/[email protected]<' target='_blank'>target='_blank'>http://members.msn.com/[email protected]</a> take a gander - Tue, 20 May 2003 5:42pm | ||
| Anonymous | a local forum: http://www.ducttapeman.net/Forum/index.php worth checking out. - Tue, 20 May 2003 5:45pm | ||
| Laprider User Info... | its all fun and games till you bury all your friends...this is stupid and out of hand, if wreaker and I can now share candlelit tofu dinners anyone can get along.... lots of B.S. talk....if this guys dad is a cop...hmmmm simple someone print out the stuff thats been posted here and drop it off to the duty seargent where he works. If the cops were called there will already be a file....I'm all for fair fights...but this sounds like some made for Tv movie and someone should put THIS issue to an end. If this Will ass keeps making a fool of himself then by all means if he offends you to your face, beat him down...that is your right! I don't want to read about this in my morning paper. - Tue, 20 May 2003 5:52pm | ||
| Anonymous | that link isn't working...it's going to hotmail mailouts... - Tue, 20 May 2003 6:04pm | ||
| Anonymous | so what's the update?? has Willy got the beatdown he's askin' for and deserves? i heard some guy from a cross canada booking agents messageboard (based in toronto) emailed the band and told them they better not ask for shows. HAHA - Tue, 20 May 2003 6:11pm | ||
| Anonymous | Is that picture on the ductape site really him? Jesus H Christ, he looks 10 fucking years old. Ripping him apart would be like eating chicken wings. Someone outta introduce the lad to protien shakes, or somethin'.... - Tue, 20 May 2003 6:52pm | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | Lets kill him (ok i just wanted to be post 100) - Tue, 20 May 2003 6:54pm | ||
| Anonymous | Cross Canada booking agent's board? elaborate. - Tue, 20 May 2003 6:54pm | ||
| OMG! | So whats the dilly with willy? This topic has brought a mad amount of responce? But where is Will in all this? Too pussy to show his head? - Tue, 20 May 2003 7:10pm | ||
| Anonymous | For everyones dissing information. Will didn't jump anyone, but got his friends to. He watched while they beat people up, and then drove off. Now, I am having mixed feelings on this, should we be more angry at the person who beat the kids up or Will, the one who got them to beat them up and did nothing about it. The cops were at Stellys after school, maybe for Will? - Tue, 20 May 2003 7:17pm | ||
| Lise | He is just as guilty as the puppeteer tugging at the infantile strings of his friends. Besides, he was the one apparently bragging about kicking some ass, so he perpetrated his own fate. He and his "friends" are simply pathetic excuses for human beings. - Tue, 20 May 2003 7:21pm | ||
| ?�?�? | no, they will be here for the next few days to direct traffic and make sure no fights break out between the Parkland and Stellys students during the shift change. - Tue, 20 May 2003 7:23pm | ||
| Anonymous | Wow, Parkland school: I went there ten years ago. My first year there a kid brought a gun to school which was followed by students bringing bombs. Anyone remember the kid that was arrested for planting a pretty impressive bomb in the computer lab? Perhaps violence in school really isn't all that different now? - Tue, 20 May 2003 7:36pm | ||
| Anonymous | true, but a few ppl did get called to the office due to a certain friend of mine slammin another person (some kid i dont know) into the lockers. Then the second assed fuckers went and ratted my friend in to tha office @ stellys. Shit, not only does he need his parents to fight his battles and his friends, but hes a fucking rat also. Wow Will is quite the bitch...hahaha - Tue, 20 May 2003 7:39pm | ||
| Ross form S.L | hey whats up for neone hear that doesnt live in brentwood this shit is mostly a load of shit first of all we didnt jump jason cuz jasons our freind and hes the one that faught dave and dave u werent alone u were there with ur brother and a freind but i wouldnt call them freinds cuz they ditched once u threw a puch at jason. then jason punched u once which made u fall down i dont wanna start shit with neone of u fucks or the rest of our band but dont come on hear and start shit because if u look on all the other posts we didnt do nething except promote our show. until u guys started to make stuff up about us and if it comes down to u guys attacking us then just remember i have older friends. - Tue, 20 May 2003 7:45pm | ||
| Dave | And what about the quote where Will is boasting about beating up this Jason kid. These threads started long before Will had his friends attack me. It would seem Will has this all worked out, he has Yuri deliver his threats, then Jason beats them up while he hides behind your enormous girth. John and Jesse weren't involved, and as I recall Jason attacked Jesse first. You people are a joke and you won't weasel your way outta this. Your actions are about to catch up with you. Anyone who reads even 3 or 4 posts by Will know what kind of scum he is. Will is a coward, and Jason a tool. You people are pathetic. How long do you think you'll be able to get away with this shit. Remember theres always a bigger fish, even bigger then you Ross. - Tue, 20 May 2003 7:55pm | ||
| Anonymous | u r not the only one with older friends here tubbs...but remember, how does it make u look when u have to get yur "older friends" to fight yur battles that your big mouths has led u into??? - Tue, 20 May 2003 7:58pm | ||
| Dave | Theres alot of very angry people here Ross, you don't think you can jump every one of them do ya? If I where you Ross I'd do what Will does and find a fat person to coware behind. - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:04pm | ||
| Anonymous | Hey Ross, comin for ya dude. Bring some of your "older" friends too. Knock the pussies down like bowlin pins. - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:08pm | ||
| ?�?�? | I thought we were mature enough to handle these things without resorting to the old middle school 'i have older friends that will kick your ass' trick. Guess Second Last proved me wrong again!! At least that's one thing they're good for, a cheap laugh while they try to defend themselves. God I need a drink. - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:10pm | ||
| SeCoNd LaSt | That 'older friends' trick is about as mature as this is. you know what i'm talking about. - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:12pm | ||
| Dave | No I don't. Enlighten me... - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:15pm | ||
| Coon | Hey I tink you guyz should quit this little kid bullshit.. Cause nothin is going to happen.. I dont care if you frien got his ass kcked by a kid younger than him.. i guess hes just a pussy. And if your older friends are going to fuck around with ross, will, or any of his friends i will personally beat your fuckin head in with a bat.. if your goin to fight keep it at you own age level.... Im just warnig you... no older friend.... i aint threating you guyz... just telling you - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:19pm | ||
| Dave | First that was a threat dumb ass. Second four 16 - 17 yr olds vs a 14 yr old, ring a bell? - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:28pm | ||
| Anonymous | ROFL - these threats are pathetic...im just chillin back and laughing. - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:36pm | ||
| Jason | You ain't got shit man. you dropped like a bag of shit, go ahead bring some older friends i could use a good fight!haha bunch of fuckin pussy's that sit their and talk behind their computer - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:37pm | ||
| ... | Fuck man no one messed around with a 14 year old - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:38pm | ||
| Dave | I think you've got some people mixed up in that small mind of your Jason, maybe you should try using it instead of taking orders from Will... I never said anything about older friends... - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:39pm | ||
| Dave | Also, I'd talk to Wills face, but he seems to be to busy hiding. - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:40pm | ||
| Anonymous | By the way dave panter is grade 11 and all of us are in grade 10 so do somethin - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:43pm | ||
| Anonymous | so jason, u take orders from will to beat ppl up, so what do u get out of it, wills winky? is that how u get down? is that the reason why u picked on that defencless kid that is supposed to be "bi" are you sexually frustrated? I think this is the cause of all of this confusion. These kids are frustrated with themselves and they know that they just love the wang... ill leave it at that...but think about it before u make another stupid post... - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:44pm | ||
| Jason | Fuck neither did i you lil faggot come do somethen instead of acting like a tuff guy behind the computer....o yea you think i take order's from will??? - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:45pm | ||
| Anonymous | . - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:47pm | ||
| Jason | all i seem to see is a bunch of pussy's talken behnd a computer come do somethen...i'm willen anytime you faggets wanna bounce i'll be thier - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:49pm | ||
| Anonymous | I dunno where your gettom all these thoughts about us beatin up some lil bi kid...i think you guys are a joke - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:52pm | ||
| Anonymous | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You really have no idea do you? This has NOTHING to do with revenge, homosexuality, or older kids. Now this is just a good old fashioned pretend punk stomppin! - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:53pm | ||
| Anonymous | Fuck all this pretend shit that's do somethen about it..fucken punks vs. goth's - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:56pm | ||
| Anonymous | . - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:57pm | ||
| Dave | You're retards, brain dead fucking retards. The only thing I've ever heard from you is either calling some gay or threating to beat them up. I'd like to see a thought out response from any one of you for once. Grow the fuck up, stop being such dumbasses. Will get some balls. Jason and Ross get some brains and you might suddenly relieze that not everything in life can be answered with threats and name calling. For fucks sake whats wrong with you?!! - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:58pm | ||
| Anonymous | goth? whos a goth around here??? - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:02pm | ||
| ?�?�? | No one I can see, here comes Delicious Face into the argument again! Come on, they already wiped the floor with you at the BOTB, don't make them do it again. And in case you hadn't noticed, everyone here seems to be shitting on Second Last, but since I don't live in Brentwood I can't readily back David and the others up, but you would count on my presence there. And that punks vs goths statement is utter bullshit. Name-dropping. Lying little pukes. Last time I checked Dave, Jesse, and the other people involved in this aren't 'goths' so to speak. Get your heads out of your asses and just either end this now, and admit to it, or end it later, when your head is LODGED up your ass. Your choice. Where's Will?? I'm sure Ross would have told him about this... all I saw was his goons walking around the school today, not him. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:09pm | ||
| ROSS | hey dave whats up hows it goin is it true ur gay cuz we didnt know neways can u show me a few threats ive put on here and can u please stop telling everyone u got gang beaten cuz u starait got beaten by jason - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:11pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | Pickup a fucking phone or take it back to elementary school. Bunch of inbred morons playing out life's lil drama on livevic...pathetic. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:14pm | ||
| Dave | Case and point. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:14pm | ||
| ROSS | how did u see his "goons" if u dont live here try not to trap urself in to many more lies and i dont know who wrote the "goth" thing - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:16pm | ||
| ROSS | Dave i know ur a retard but try make a little sense - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:18pm | ||
| Anonymous | y u wanna know if he is gay, i think u just proved it yurself that yur curious... - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:19pm | ||
| Simon Frankson | What an interesting choice of words... I don�t recall any goths OR punks involved with this whole fandangle. Is that what this is really about? Group A Vs. Group B? I want an official, non-bullshit stance on behalf of both sides. And Ross, lets practice using those periods this time. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:20pm | ||
| Dave | Ross, I'm tired of you and your shit. I'm going to sleep now. I'm sure you and your friends will try to pick a fight with me at school tomorrow, but thats another day. Good night. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:20pm | ||
| ?�?�? | I go to Stellys. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:24pm | ||
| JJ | Oh for christ sakes shut the hell up all of you. Are gonna have a big gang fight or not. Just do it allready and stop boring everybody with your threats and gossip!!!!! - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:29pm | ||
| gorp | second last and their friends are gonna get their asses kicked tomorrow by about 50 guys at stellys - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:32pm | ||
| A CALL TO ARMS! | anyone who hates those wiggers in secondlast for all the shit they've done should come to stellys tomorrow and help shitkick them all - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:34pm | ||
| Simon Frankson | No. There are like 4 people who would, given the chance. There are like 500 who say they would. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:35pm | ||
| ?�?�? | Good point, but even so, when would they find time to?? what with the 10 minute lunch and all.. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:39pm | ||
| Will | he yoo fukkin homos yor gay an sekund last iz gunna kik yur asssus. wach yor fukkin bak jesy an dave panter or well beet thu shit outa yoo - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:42pm | ||
| Anonymous | whos gorp??? ID like to know... - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:43pm | ||
| hmmph | K, when the hell are you going to find the time to have a fucking fight at stellys when there are cops all around to make sure there arn't any fights because of the whole merging of Parklands. For fucks sake the school wants us out of there at 1 and not to stay around and we only got a fucking 10 minute lunch. You people are full of shit. If you fight, your no better then Will and his buddies, and thats pretty damn low. This puts a bad name to the citizens of Brentwood and to the rest of the stellys kids. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:58pm | ||
| Simon Frankson | It would seem everyone needs someone to hate. - Tue, 20 May 2003 9:59pm | ||
| ?�?�? | I agree, why sink to their level?? By the Way, the God of Canadian Musicians says this about this matter: "If there was an assault then the police should be contacted. The people who host the board and moderate it should also be contacted and made aware. " That is all. You may return to your homes. - Tue, 20 May 2003 10:04pm | ||
| Distorted_Riffs | I'm a friend of a user on these forums, and I'm a part of the Edmontonian Music Scene. I gotta say, I wish people like Will and his band would shut their festering gobs. People like him make me wanna puke. Hes a scum sucking, bottom feeding, malodious, COWARD. Music is not about being popular or liked. Its about expression and communicating. The second you beat someone who doesnt like a song that you didnt even WRITE, it makes you less than nothing. I hope you step on something sharp, and mammoth twit. That being said, I propose to not physically harm this person. Yet. First, do as much damage other ways possible. You can make sure that band NEVER plays in Canada again. You can make for god damned sure that everyone knows hes a weak, insecure, peathetic excuse for a human being, and worst of all... Any venue owner or organizer can crush his fragile, tiny, insignificant ego with a few simple words: You Are Never Playing Here Again I would also propose that you sue him, his family, and all parties involved in this for every last penny of their estate. Assault and Battery, Conspiracy for assault, Aggravated Assault, Hate Crimes, etc. If you fellas tried, you could get him locked away for a few months in Juvie. And trust me, they would pass him around like currency. So just throw him to the sharks. Dont bother getting your own hands all gooky and dirty. Plus, it'll be more satisfying to hand roscoe some ass lube through the bars of Juvie than to actually punch him in the face. -A concerned, and rather disgusted party - Tue, 20 May 2003 10:28pm | ||
| Anonymous | jesus, this is turning into an all-out prep vs goth war. pretty fucking amusing for the sideliners - Tue, 20 May 2003 10:53pm | ||
| ?�?�? | Will, music is the great communicator, I like to say. Just because you learned how to play a guitar won't make you an instant star. If stardom is what you are after you can always whore yourself out to old men, then you'd be just as well known, and twice as rich. It takes a LOT of work (something you've pointed out before, I might add), but what's the point of doing all that if you're heart isn't there. The true strength of a person isn't judged by their successes, but how they handle themselves after their failures. One day you'll learn that. One day. BTW, if you want to be a Christian, you'd better start acting like one, because you're going straight to hell otherwise. And I didn't know a man's worth is measured in the amount of ass he gets. I didn't know girlfriends were meant to be treated as trophies, as you seem to be putting it. I'm sure you'll jump to prove me wrong but try thinking about it. - Tue, 20 May 2003 10:57pm | ||
| DistortedRiffs | Just once again reaffirming that violence is NEVER the answer. There are other ways to make people realize their stupidity. Plus, as has been mentioned... Your only sinking to their level, and who wants to be all the way down there? Its an awfully deep hole after all. (PS Getting laid has nothing to do with manhood. Being able to CONTROL your hormones is what proves a person. Ignorant boobs.) - Tue, 20 May 2003 10:58pm | ||
| A question: | I'd like to know exactly who you class as "goth", dude. - Tue, 20 May 2003 11:03pm | ||
| ?�?�? | Wow, DistortedRiffs, I completely agree with everything you've been saying. Good points. - Tue, 20 May 2003 11:03pm | ||
| Anonymous | DistortedRiffs i like your thinking. There are other ways to sort this kid out...but physical damage does help, but isnt the solution. Nicely done DistortedRiffs! - Tue, 20 May 2003 11:04pm | ||
| DistortedRiffs | Thank yew I think its so pathetic so see something like this happen... Man, I'mma listen to Imagine by John Lennon. I suggest the guys from Second Last do the same. It would do some good to have some positive messages in their lives... anyways, I'm goin to bed. g'night. - Tue, 20 May 2003 11:06pm | ||
| gorp | speaking of getting stuck in holes, how many times do you think will has had his ass pounded by the coke heads on johnson street? - Tue, 20 May 2003 11:06pm | ||
| Anonymous | What is your problem Will? because you need some serious fucking anger management. What makes your band so great, huh? your an unoriginal, immature, gimpy little fucker who's angry about the fact that you have a serious lack of talent. So your going to beat people who slam your band? well if thats your plan of action then I'd bring a crowbar with you when you walk down the street because your finally going to get what your lily punk ass deserves. Grow some balls. I am all in favour of you trying to create music even though it's a heaping pile of crap, but you have not earned the right to have a egotistical additude. I hope you face some serious charges because your shit kicking is long over due. - Tue, 20 May 2003 11:56pm | ||
| Ultrazone User Info... | Wow, anyone want a phone number for them? 661-0395 - Wed, 21 May 2003 12:02am | ||
| dan conner User Info... | Once I dislocated my shoulder... It hurt a bit, but not as much as I thought it was. It was about three weeks before christmas 3 years ago. It got better pretty fast, actually... And this other time, when I got my tonsils removed, my mom kept making me talk (moron) and then I got a big blood clot from my stitches ripping, and I woke up in the middle of the night, blood was POURING out of my mouth, and every few seconds, I'd cough up a golf-ball sized beize of jello-textured blood... It was gross, I didn't know there was that much blood in me! it was everywhere... They took me to a hospital. Another time, I was sitting around, and then I decided to play my guitar... I was jsut playing and playing and ended up playing for like 6 hours straight, without meaning to... Anyway, all I wanna say is, What is the deal with the punk/goth war? That seems a little dumb... I mean, (semi) social outcasts should stick together, right? and I quote "What's the best thing to be when you meet a gang of social outcasts in an allyway?" I replied "a judo master?" Two bit fell of his chair laughing "No... Another social outcast!" -The Outsiders Damn, that was a good book, did anyone else like it? I didn't like that little Johnny kid too much, though... He whines a lot. I went into subway once, and ordered a cheese and egg sandwich for breakfast, and there was this old chinese guy working there, and he was like "It not Tuesday..." I said "I know, but could I have a cheese and egg sandwich?" and he replied "but it isn't tuesday!" and it went on like that like 10 times untill he said "OH, cheese and egg... You want bacon?" And I didn't get bacon. Does anyone know how much bacon the average pig can "make"? Dan Conner - Wed, 21 May 2003 12:26am | ||
| Anonymous | Dan Conner, what the hell???? - Wed, 21 May 2003 1:05am | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Well this has quickly gone from dumb to dumber. I will say for the record that since I do promote and play shows in this city, I will never have anything to do with any of these guys. Hope you can find someone that doesnt know what kind of people you are to get you shows. As for some of the other people on here. Let me tell you something from experience, broadcasting a beating beforehand tends to work against you. Telling these losers your going to beat the shit out of them does nothing but give them time to prepare. As for the rest of us here in Vic, well sooner or later I'm pretty sure we'll run into these guys at a show then maybe we can have a little talk. Hey s.v. that victoria nazi skinhead problem was dealt with quite nicely actually. three cars full of guys with bats and golf clubs and an intense amount of frustration tends to make the nazis leave very fast. - Wed, 21 May 2003 1:35am | ||
| Anonymous | LOL that was funny Dan Connor. - Wed, 21 May 2003 1:40am | ||
| ?????? | Lol, I still want to find out where will is. - Wed, 21 May 2003 9:57am | ||
| ?�?�? | wow, this seems to have died - Wed, 21 May 2003 11:56am | ||
| Anonymous | just past ten, and all's clear on the stellys front. no prep/goth war, no attacks on helpless 14 year olds, nothing. - Wed, 21 May 2003 12:22pm | ||
| Anonymous | ** Horribly Dissapointed ** - Wed, 21 May 2003 12:53pm | ||
| S.V. | Bwahahahaha the Skinhead plague was resolved rather nicely in the end. :) :) What I meant is that discussions such as these are best conducted covertly with the people involved, not on a message board. Regardless of the outcome. - Wed, 21 May 2003 12:53pm | ||
| Anonymous | omg wins. we take j00 choppas an bump zem up to numa waa! gegegegegegee akaak! - Wed, 21 May 2003 5:12pm | ||
| Taz User Info... | I'd rather hug someone that "dissed me" then beat them down. Let's all do bodyshots off of eachother. Violence is about as cool as an eagles concert. I think i'd rather suck a horse cock then throw a punch. - Wed, 21 May 2003 5:13pm | ||
| shunt User Info... | wow...this is cool, i'm read the drummer of yours truly second last..and now people want to jump me? lemme see, i was like what...9000 kms away when this assault happened? i was in kamloops for a lacrosse tournament, and i come back on tuesday and i hear that parklands is burned down and my band members kicked the shit out of some kid. cool - Wed, 21 May 2003 7:44pm | ||
| Jam_Aylott User Info... | uhh.... ? has anyone seen this many posts on a subject ever? its liek a record isnt it? - Wed, 21 May 2003 7:47pm | ||
| Anonymous | i'd love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. - Wed, 21 May 2003 7:48pm | ||
| Jam_Aylott User Info... | haha, a fly on the wall you say? for what conversation - Wed, 21 May 2003 7:49pm | ||
| Dave | I have nothing against you. Only against those that where there that night and Yuri, Wills little threat mule. - Wed, 21 May 2003 8:27pm | ||
| Virge User Info... | I blame the guys parents for being fuck ups. I mean, like someone said, a lot of youth violence is perpetrated by upper middle class kids whose parents either don't have time to spend with their kids, or find them a bother to their otherwise 'normal' lives so they give em some money and a new car and say "ok, now go away". no wonder fucked up shit like this happens. the kid's dad is a cop? fine fucking example HE is. i say we kill all the yuppies and then the world will sort itself out. - Wed, 21 May 2003 8:34pm | ||
| ?�?�? | good luck read is all I can say. Will doesn't seem to be the type to agree with people. - Wed, 21 May 2003 9:01pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | The parents fault? Fuck that, you make your own choices in life. The parents may be an influence but you always have the choice to do things your own way. He's just a goof that thinks he can be a tough guy, he'll learn when a real tough guy comes along and removes his front teeth. Too bad he tries to play up on the punk rock thing though. It's a shame that the people that used to beat up punk rockers are now managing to hide in our ranks. Red neck, bully, bullshit, dickheads. - Wed, 21 May 2003 9:02pm | ||
| DistortedRiffs | @the Drummer I suggest that you find yourself a REAL band to play in. I wouldnt bother a fucknut like Will. here in Edmonton, when people like him form a band, its short lived, because only other people like him will be in a band with him. Then no one listens to them because they're poser assholes, and the band never gets anywhere. back to the point: I actually thought about this last night... Made me lose sleep that someone can be as block headed as will. I mean... I cant even think of words to describe the mammoth ignorance needed to do something like that... it depresses me. I wonder if your produced knows about this? You should tell him. I'm sure he could put some sort of positive PR spin on it! You'd be HUGE! - Wed, 21 May 2003 10:29pm | ||
| Anonymous | *bump* - Wed, 21 May 2003 10:56pm | ||
| ?�?�? | Hey, maybe if Will got shot, he could become as famous as 50 cent!! Ever think of that Will?? We'd all get what we want... - Wed, 21 May 2003 11:07pm | ||
| DistortedRiffs | Heehee... Thats pretty mean... But strangely fair! I hope a run away hubcap lodges itself up Wills nose - Wed, 21 May 2003 11:10pm | ||
| ?�?�? | I hope he starts being stalked by a 50 year old man who likes his music. aaah the pitfalls of fame... - Wed, 21 May 2003 11:13pm | ||
| gorp | been a while since we saw any of will's friends post a msg on here. they're probably all downtown taking it up the ass for a line of coke - Wed, 21 May 2003 11:32pm | ||
| JESSE LEWIS | FUCK WILL Y ME IV FUCKING FORGOT THE HOLE FUCKING THING I MEAN FUCK LOOK WHAT WHEN U GET JUMPED FOR NO FUCKING REASIN FUCK and ALL I Did WAS Make ONE FUCKING POST. THEN IT WAS FORGIV AND FORGET IM NOT OUT FOR BLOOD AND THAT IS WHAT IM TRYING TO ASTABLISH leav me the fuck out of this if u want go and do it go the fuck a head . right but all i ask is leav me alone - Wed, 21 May 2003 11:43pm | ||
| your english teacher | Where did I go wrong? - Thu, 22 May 2003 1:30am | ||
| ?�?�? | Come on... either do something or spam him with emails. This is going nowhere - Thu, 22 May 2003 10:01am | ||
| Anonymous | Willy likes big willies - Thu, 22 May 2003 10:16am | ||
| Anonymous | Bump! - Thu, 22 May 2003 10:16am | ||
| Constable Nolan | We have investigated into these beatings and have determined that Will Barz be flogged repeatedley, three times a week, for the rest of his life. Also, we recommend that he be excommunicate from the church. That is all. If he does not comply with these rules, we will cut off his right nut. Run pansy. 0\Nxor. - Thu, 22 May 2003 10:16am | ||
| Will | i am a twat. that is all. i dyed my hair black to hide from my opressors. - Thu, 22 May 2003 10:20am | ||
| Virge User Info... | ok, i'm not saying that the kid doesn't have his own mind. i'm not saying that he isn't a little shithead. i'm not trying to pass off the problem to parents or music or video games, but thought patterns are learned as are values and i really think a persons upbringing has a lot to do with it. some of the nicest people i've ever met were beaten by their parents. of course people lead their own lives but circumstances dictate a lot. i doubt his parents ever said "will, we want you to beat the shit out of some kid", but they may have expressed that they want him to fit in or be popular or be the best or some other such bullshit that would lead to serious problems with ego and insecurity. and he could have said "fuck you mom & dad, i'll do what i want" but chances are he tried to be a good little willy and make mom and dad proud. and now he's REALLY fucked. of course you could say "well if that didn't happen to me i wouldnt be fucked now" all your life and get nowhere and that's stupid. I'm just saying peoples morals and values are fucked, getting more and more fucked, and it's being handed down the generations. - Thu, 22 May 2003 1:27pm | ||
| ?�?�? | i blame the media. telling us to be all cool and shit. i'm like, no way man! i'm not gonna do that shit man! it's telling us if you aren't popular you will go nowhere in life, which is utter bullshit. Will just got caught up in it, he's going to get a massive shock if he graduates. life is a lot different from high school, and in the end popularity means jack shit. Elvis was killed by the things we strive for, too much ice cream, sex, and fame. Think about that. - Thu, 22 May 2003 3:34pm | ||
| anonymr. | you know, i used to hope that life was different after high school to but the fact is, it's not. popularity/acceptance etc. still remains most peoples primary goal. sad but true. the only thing that might change are the actual people behaving like high schoolers. some learn how to live a fulfilling life young, some old and most never learn it. and i disagree that the media tells us that if we're not popular we won't get anywhere. that's almost right; the media tells us that if we're popular we will get to where we wanna be more easily which is actually, given what i've already stated above, quite true. disclaimer: just because i say these things, does not mean i agree with them. i have an ideal model of the world in my head as well that doesn't include all this popularity bs. the hurdle with these ideals though is not in individual people's acceptance of them but in a culture's acceptance and transition to them. - Thu, 22 May 2003 3:45pm | ||
| shunt User Info... | whoa. smart stuff, we're drawing super smart, deep posts... i've heard so many stories already...i think everyone's being mindfucked in this process. i'm pretty sure that the attack was not a homophobic hate crime, it's just that will is sensitive to criticism and sometimes loses his cool. not cool. (no pun intended) i had a wee chat with him today and i'll get into deeper details in the studio, but i really wanna know the real story about this. but i sincerely apologize to dave for what happened, fighting is dumb i learned the hard way. - Thu, 22 May 2003 4:30pm | ||
| Anonymous | Its all good appologizing to dave...but its not rly yur job. It seems to me that you perhaps are the one with the talent and the others are just tag-alongs. Wills boastings about going far will only lead to his downfall...I f u ever wish to have a career in music, u need to disconcern yourself from these people and put yut talent to good use. - Thu, 22 May 2003 6:28pm | ||
| ?�?�? | I used to have a major anger problem until I learned how to deal with it.. that's really all that Will needs to do. But jumping people who don't like your music then bragging about it is what I have the problem with. That's just sad. And it was just a sad coincidence that he's using the words 'cocksucker', 'homo', 'fag' and other words like that to describe the kid he beat up, who is actually bisexual. There are many other insults in the world, like 'fucker', 'douchebag', 'twat', 'fucktard', 'shiteater', among others that would suffice just as well, why use those?? I've had some friends like that (bisexual)... I've learned not to use those words anymore, and I suggest he does the same. Even his Idols Blink 182 don't use those. I'm not expecting him to apologize, but if he doesn't change I suggest you leave the band. If he's too insensetive to not realize what he's actually saying maybe he needs to grow up, and realize that it's about the music, not what other people think. You don't aim to get famous, you aim to do something you love, and fuck what other people think unless you're a sellout. P.S. Stop him speaking on behalf of the entire band, trust me. - Thu, 22 May 2003 6:34pm | ||
| wtf! | WTF?! why isnt anyone kicking Will's ass?? I agree with everyone that said he should get shitkicked, but no one's doing anything! Will's angry at the world and he doesnt deserve to be in a band that actually might go anywhere, Second Last's music is awesome its just Wills horrible 8 yeard old girl voice that ruins it. come on people kick his ass! - Thu, 22 May 2003 6:40pm | ||
| Anonymous | I for one would like to point out that Dave (a really non aggressive kid) was not the only one to see violence from Will and his goonies. This happened twice in four days to two different non-fans of second last. But I know dave well enough to know that although vengence tastes sweet, he would rather Will just stop hurting people much more then he would like will to get a taste of his own medicine. Stop bad mouthing people and STOP hurting people with violence! This goes to every human being who walks the planet. If you want to fight then make sure it is with someone who wants to fight you. Beating up kids, adults, woman, or men is completely uncalled for now a days, so just stop. - Thu, 22 May 2003 7:03pm | ||
| ?�?�? | will doesn't seem to be the type of person to respond to anything else. - Thu, 22 May 2003 11:37pm | ||
| dan conner User Info... | Hahaha.. blame the media... Trying to be cool... Fuck with trying to be cool, it gets you nowhere. You are cooler being yourself, sounds like what Scruff Mcrough teaches 8 year olds, but, its true. I am sick of all my good friends who now that "punk" is becoming "cool" they are dressing all "punk". Only thing is, the media distorts that. Punk wear isn't really a tight black shirt with "punk" in pink glitter on the front, with safety pins already on the arms, that you got from walmart... The media is crap, don't try and be anyhting like it. Dan Conner - Fri, 23 May 2003 1:30am | ||
| Anonymous | BUMP - Fri, 23 May 2003 10:14am | ||
| Anonymous | I don't mean to start up a "you're not punk because...." issue, however, it still should be mentioned that punks don't talk (historically etc) like a rapper. Will needs to stop with his Vanilla Ice lingo. For the drummer of SL, it's cool that you're apologizing for Will- but it's not needed. But I think it's still noble of you. Leave the band! (others will judge you by who your friends are!) - Fri, 23 May 2003 11:00am | ||
| ?�?�? | the only good thing about television is the simpsons - Fri, 23 May 2003 11:05am | ||
| ?�?�? | @ read (drummer) for the guy above that said 'others will judge you by who your friends are' and that is absolutely correct, especially if Will keeps talking shit while using your band name, and speaking for the band. And I just heard that Second Last has been blacklisted by a whole bunch of clubs. Talk to Will, and if that doesn't work, leave the band. I'm sure you have plenty of other friends ready and willing to start another band. - Fri, 23 May 2003 11:06am | ||
| Anonymous | this is hilarious.my friend, who works as (web lackey) part of a booking collective that spans Alberta to Nova Scotia, was alerted to the situation and then emailed the band to ask them for comment and if what had hapened wuz true. apparintly all Will did was swaer at him and call him phoney and pretty much told them to fuck off. all they were asking for was their side(SL's) of the story. i wish i could post Will's response here, but i guess it would be unfair to the club and individual i.d's of the booking collective. they did include a phone # that Will could have called to speak to them in person. anyway, no question about it, that band is history. at least outside of Vic. - Fri, 23 May 2003 11:40am | ||
| Anonymous | bump - Fri, 23 May 2003 4:18pm | ||
| An Opinion | Seems to me that people who fight their way through life are screaming out loud that they are mal-adjusted, insecure, frightened, have low self-esteem and have no self respect. Their actions show everyone they come into contact with that they need emotional and psychological intervention. - Fri, 23 May 2003 4:46pm | ||
| I agree | When I was in grade 7 there was this chick who refused to stop being a totally conceited bitch. She would pick on everyone- regardless if you were her friend or not.- Anyways, when she did this for 2 years and then in grade 9 she was transfered to a school that my brother went to. I'm not kidding: in the first week of school she made more friends than enemies (since no one put up with her shit). She was told by a gang in that school that her days were numbered and she actually resorted to hanging herself. Dead at grade 9 after only one week in that school. The pathetic thing is that no one cared. - Fri, 23 May 2003 5:50pm | ||
| Another Opinion | Lesson: Sadly, you reap what you sow. - Fri, 23 May 2003 6:19pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | Wow, that's a lot of bullshit... This Dave dude sounds like a cool kid... If people do get a show together against violence (especially violence against our queer homies), I'm sure my band would love to play it.... Either way, I would gladly show.... - Sat, 24 May 2003 5:07am | ||
| Anonymous | Hey people lets fucking get this show on the road! We could have a big concert and raise money to stop violence period. Although I think that maybe you could make it so the bands get half and the charity/project we raise money for gets half. I know most bands will gladly play for a good cause but it is nice to have some gas money, even a little bit. You could have bands from all genres play and that would give a good showcase of talent. Maybe we could get alot of newer bands too so that they can get exposure. Hell make it a show to raise money against racism and violence since most people here can agree that these topics are important. Maybe the show could start with an apology from Second Last..... - Sat, 24 May 2003 3:31pm | ||
| Anonymous | i dont forsee S.L appologizing. - Sat, 24 May 2003 7:06pm | ||
| ?�?�? | I totally agree with the show against violence. Read is really the only person from SL that I can see there. I'd show up, even though i haven't been to any of the brentwood concerts yet (punk, metal are not my thing, it's all about britrock for me). I support that idea, and i'm going to pitch it to the Organizer on the Brentwood Youth forum. (http://www.brentwoodyouth.com/forum) - Sat, 24 May 2003 10:11pm | ||
| gorp | to be honest, i'm happy to see that this forum thread has changed from a "Will's a dick, so lets all kick the shit outa him" page to a more intellectual thing. the anti-violence show sounds like a great idea, but noway that Will or any of his cronies should be allowed anywhere near it, except Read, who had handled this situation with alot of maturity. - Sat, 24 May 2003 11:42pm | ||
| violence is everything | let's kick the shit out of that will knot kid..... - Sun, 25 May 2003 12:04am | ||
| dan conner User Info... | I have a question. Is the kid who got beat up refferred to on her as Dave, or Jason, or what? I have seen him called both... maybe its just me Dan Conner - Sun, 25 May 2003 12:38pm | ||
| Ross | dan the kids name is dave he got in a fight with Jason and the people here were saying that our band jumped jason and dave in 4 days if u wanna know the truth it is that jason went up to one of the three and threw one in a ditch then dave threw his pop and swung at jason so jason swung back and knocked him on the ground if he wanted he could of easily got on him and pounded him but he idnt then we left thats it - Sun, 25 May 2003 1:34pm | ||
| Anonymous | bump - Sun, 25 May 2003 2:53pm | ||
| Isobellia User Info... | Feh - Sun, 25 May 2003 2:58pm | ||
| ?�?�? | I don't know exactly who 'The Organizer' is but she's liking the idea of the anti-violence concert, and it may happen in July, if it does. Questions, Want to play there post here: http://www.brentwoodyouth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27 - Sun, 25 May 2003 6:43pm | ||
| Anonymous | hey it is me the anonymous poster who keeps getting recognized for my work. (maybe i should start posting under a name but i am tooo lazy to log in.) I think we should give second last another chance. If Will and whoever was involved apologize to Dave and their other beatupeees then I would be willing to make an effort to see them. If they can learn from their mistakes instead of just get punished for them then maybe this shit town will be a little bit better. Since I know Dave I am sure that him and Jesse( the other guy who got beat up) would prefer that Will and his croonies would stop beating people then see vengence. - Sun, 25 May 2003 7:36pm | ||
| Ross | Jesse anderson or lewis if it is lewis then he didnt get beaten up nor did anderson. i know what my buddy jason did was wrong but i dont think the band should be responsible for his actions. if people want tro keep postin shit on here go for it just dont aim it at the band because we didnt do anything lets just put this shit behind us - Sun, 25 May 2003 8:35pm | ||
| ?�?�? | i'd like to hear it from Will, thanks. - Sun, 25 May 2003 8:41pm | ||
| The Organizer/Elizabeth | Brentwood Stock will also be the show against violence. More details to come. - Sun, 25 May 2003 8:44pm | ||
| Anonymous | Ross you are a pussy. - Sun, 25 May 2003 10:34pm | ||
| Ross | thanx man it means alot to me, well i guess u are what u eat - Mon, 26 May 2003 12:20am | ||
| Anonymous | If you are what you eat, you're dead meat. - Mon, 26 May 2003 12:09pm | ||
| Anonymous | It has been established that Will did not actually fight. But one can not forget that Will bragged about the beating and said it was a warning to people who don't like his band. Will may not need a shitkicking, however he needs to accept the fact that he must be held accountable for what he says. - Mon, 26 May 2003 2:53pm | ||
| Ross | well... i guess im dead meat just like u guys have been sying that for the last week and if u didnt realise it's getting a little old. everytime we try to stop this shit someone sais were gonna get our asses kicked (the band) and then when we post sometrhing back we turn in to homophobe hating people who are very violent like u all like to say when it actually turns out u wre the ones that threatened us thnx for ur valuble time - Mon, 26 May 2003 3:22pm | ||
| ?�?�? | You have to realize that Will has been posting under your band name, and liberally using words like 'fag' and 'cocksucker'. This makes us think you are ALL homophobes, not just Will. You may not be a homophobe, and you certainly haven't threatened us (except for the older friends remark) in this thread, but if Will keeps talking like that, being that he's acting as the figurehead of your band, people are going to take his opinion as all of yours. - Mon, 26 May 2003 3:49pm | ||
| Ross | well... i havent seen will post any remarks in the last few days. Read is in charge of our live victoria shit now because will can loose his temper and probably say something he might regret in the future so lets leave it at that and stop with the fucking threats - Mon, 26 May 2003 5:08pm | ||
| just so you know... | "if you are what you eat, then you're dead meat" is a lyric from Cold Cold Hearts. Its was only a joke as a response for your response for being a pussy. Will you all just lighten up! - Mon, 26 May 2003 5:21pm | ||
| Anonymous | (it's talking about hamburgers/steak/bacon, not curb stomping) - Mon, 26 May 2003 5:24pm | ||
| Siggy | The word "Queer" was first employed in 1925 in the American theatrical periodical called Variety. Other words soon followed, e.g. "gay" "camp" (from the Italian campeggiare, meaning to stand out from a background), "minny", "fairy", "queen", "fag", etc. - Mon, 26 May 2003 5:46pm | ||
| ?�?�? | yeah - Will kind of needs some major anger management. or at least stop using the homophobic words he uses, then people won't think he's a homophobe. and he should learn how to take constructive critisicm. and he should just ignore the real critisicm. - Mon, 26 May 2003 5:48pm | ||
| ?�?�? | thank you siggy. you're a walking dictionary(.com). - Mon, 26 May 2003 5:50pm | ||
| just so you also know... | when ever I would tell my mom that something I saw was funny, she'd reply with "funny haha, or funny queer?" Just thought you'd find that "whimsical." - Mon, 26 May 2003 6:53pm | ||
| bumpy mcbumperson | *bump* - Mon, 26 May 2003 10:26pm | ||
| ? | will someone please tell me why Read is the only decent kid in this band, and yet they've all stuck together???? he should start another one. I know plenty of people that would kill to him that kid in there band he's awesome. so read, just a little advice, get out while you can. leave Will in the dust, he's a loser and he's gonna go nowhere in life. - Tue, 27 May 2003 6:23pm | ||
| ? | oops, i meant **to have** - Tue, 27 May 2003 6:26pm | ||
| Anonymous | NO KIDDING! - Tue, 27 May 2003 10:19pm | ||
| ??? | i think the reason read wouldnt leave that band is because he likes what hes playing i know read pretty well and i know he does it for the music - Wed, 28 May 2003 12:14am | ||
| Anonymous | what about ross ?�?�?� u say he should leave second last then u say ya leave will in the dust. if u didnt realize this isnt the white stripes theres more than two people in there band - Wed, 28 May 2003 12:17am | ||
| ? | but like i also said.. reads the only good one in the band. - Wed, 28 May 2003 6:03pm | ||
| Anonymous | let read do what he wants. i know him pretty damn well too. and if he wants to be in the band, then leave him alone. He's leaving soon, and if second last makes him happy, then leave him be. He's a smart kid, he knows when he's over his head, if it gets too rough he'll get out. - Wed, 28 May 2003 6:08pm | ||
| BAH! | what's the deal with this Read fellow.. i want to know more.. - Wed, 28 May 2003 6:13pm | ||
| ?�?�? | I know there is 3 people in the band. I actually DO know what i'm talking about. and what's with all the fucking imposters? can't think of an original nick? - Wed, 28 May 2003 7:49pm | ||
| shunt User Info... | hey man, ross is decent too. he's just really quiet (sober) and yeah...haha, this anti-violence thing sounds rad...see you guys at brentwood days eh! - Wed, 28 May 2003 11:08pm | ||
| Anonymous | ?�?�? "can't think of an original nick" i dont understand? - Thu, 29 May 2003 4:09pm | ||
| shunt User Info... | oh and thanks for all the generous comments that's pretty rad of you guys. i like playing in second last it's fun, i'm leaving for ontario in a month so i'm just having fun while i'm still here. anyways, i just wanted to know if this blacklist thing is true, and if it is, can i get a list of the clubs and venues? that really blows... - Thu, 29 May 2003 5:44pm | ||
| ?�?�? | i'm sure he's just annoyed at people threatening his band when Will is really the one at fault, or people blowing the jumping incident out of proportion. can't blame him really, at least he doesn't flip out at us. - Thu, 29 May 2003 8:17pm | ||
| Anonymous | *bump* - Sat, 31 May 2003 1:13am | ||
| Anonymous | always with the bump... - Sat, 31 May 2003 11:41am | ||
| Anonymous | *bang* - Sat, 31 May 2003 1:57pm | ||
| Anonymous | this thread sucks. Fuck off, or there will be some more band violence. I was hoping this was about the band Vio-Lence!! But you little chumps are probably to nu to know of them. - Sat, 31 May 2003 2:19pm | ||
| Anonymous | if the thread sucks, then y r u reading it...IDIOT. - Sat, 31 May 2003 6:24pm | ||
| Anonymous | Read man you rule! - Sun, 1 Jun 2003 1:52am | ||
| The Gloamer | I'd like to interrupt this thread to post this message: Hail to the Thief - June 10th. Buy it or you will not be complete. A shred of your being will be forever lost if you do not buy this album. Find yourself at your local music store. Buy this album. Or not, you could just like the music and buy it. Whatever. - Sun, 1 Jun 2003 7:15pm | ||
| shunt User Info... | greeeat, now we're getting pelted with eats at brentwood days. i can't beleive this... maybe i should bring a tarp for my drums, i don't care if i get hit, it's my drums i'm worried about. - Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:27am | ||
| Anonymous | who's that really hot grade 9 chick at stellys???? - Mon, 2 Jun 2003 9:18pm | ||
| gorp | hells yeah, this brentwoodstock anti-violence thing would kick ass, and it would attract alot more bands from all over the penninsula. i still think that second last (except for read) should be banned from it, but let's get this show on the road! - Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:39pm | ||
| Anonymous | you should change the name to last nights leftovers - Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:26pm | ||
| Shaboobala | Read Guthrie is the sweetest damn kid, so dont aim at him when your pelting the rest of the band. thanks - Sat, 7 Jun 2003 3:17pm | ||
| Bobby Brown the High School Janitor | Why do u guys keep saying their a punk band. in no where of their songs do i hear punk lyrics. "you cry up in your bed" yes ok, isnt that a lyric from Thousand Foot Crutch? if you publish that song your going to get sued, and royalties will be taken from your pockets. and cruising around listening to Eminem, wearing Lugz shoes, and playing Pop Rock music...that does not make you a "Punk". that makes you a punk BITCH. Get your shit straight Will. if you come off as a punk, be a punk. and stop dressing like Shaun Desmand. - Sat, 7 Jun 2003 3:22pm | ||
| Shaboobala | When you throw shit, dont aim it at read or ross - Sat, 7 Jun 2003 3:27pm | ||
| Garland | Second Last Are A Bunch Of Fudge-packing Queers. Your Music Is Pitiful. And Blink 182 Hurts. - Sat, 7 Jun 2003 7:07pm | ||
| Anonymous | i wish i was as cool as read. - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 12:22am | ||
| shunt User Info... | i would just like to point out that Mr.Garland said that we were "a bunch of fudge-packing queers", i thought this whole thing started because of sexual discrimination? - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 1:07am | ||
| Shaboobala | Hey Garland, if i meet you im going to staple your nipple to a pole and hammer your testicles with a nail onto a board, attached to a rope, which will be being pulled by a truck in which will rip off your testicular mass. then i will shit on a piece of paper and wipe it across your face and sprinkle seaseme seeds on it so the seaguls and crows can peck at your face until you start to bleed all over the place. then i will spray you down with zippo fluid and lite you on fire until you are a raw, steamy, shaking piece of fuck, which is still attached to the pole because your nipple is stapled there. then after you pleed mercy, i will rip your body off the pole, tearing your nipple off. then i will stick your face in a bloody, shitty, diarreah filled toilet, which also has the blood from a girls period in it filled with dirty tampons. I will flush the toilet, sending everything swirling around. When you get short of breath, you will have to inhale...sending the Shitty, Bloody Urine filled water down your lungs. then the disease of all the shitty bloody water will start to rot your body. then i will hack you up into little tiny bits and shit on it. Second Last to you might suck, but atleast they try. You dumb pathetic piece of shit. - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 2:32am | ||
| Anonymous | oh my. - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:45am | ||
| Jam_Aylott User Info... | that was the most unholy thing I have ever read.... I feel sick after reading that man...dear god - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 1:04pm | ||
| Anonymous | 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- Sun, 8 Jun 2003 2:11pm | ||
| Anonymous | Shaboobala, wow vivid imagination. Now the cops have your IP address, it's your turn to pay. They certainly haven't forgotten what you did, ;). - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 3:50pm | ||
| ?�?�? | wow thanks for fucking up the board layout hahaha dude. you're very cool. time to die. http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative4.jpg - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 6:22pm | ||
| Concerned Citizen | This "Garland" character is quite a rude one. - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 8:43pm | ||
| ?�?�? | i'll have to agree - Mon, 9 Jun 2003 6:48pm | ||
| Anonymous | - Mon, 9 Jun 2003 6:56pm | ||
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